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August 21, 2019

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Location:

Lake Havasu City,AZ,

Member Since:

Sep 29, 2008

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Boston Qualifier

Running Accomplishments:

21 marathons (2 DNFs)

6 Bostons (2007-2011, 2017)

3 Half Ironmans

2 50 Milers

1 Grand Canyon Rim to Rim to Rim

Marathon PR:

     2:59:00 St. George 2008

     2:58:03 Boston 2010

 1/2 Marathon PR:

     1:25:41  Havasu Half 2009

     1:24:09 Painter's St.George 2010

 Half Ironman PR:

      5:25:02  HITS Havasu 2014

5K PR:

       18:23  LHC Turkey Trot 2014

        18:22  LHC Turkey Trot 2017

50 mile PR:

        7:56:14 Avalon50 2016

Short-Term Running Goals:

Break 3 hours again

Doing it a Boston would be sweet!

It was sweet!

Break 3 hours again, but now as a masters runner. It's been 9 years since my last sub 3. I better do this soon as I'm not getting any younger.

 

UPCOMING RACES

November 9th-  Big Bear Marathon 

Long-Term Running Goals:

Keep on running.

Complete a Full Ironman

 

Personal:

Married

4 kids

Optometrist

 

Favorite Blogs:

Miles:This week: 5.00 Month: 68.00 Year: 972.40
BareFoot Lifetime Miles: 26.00
Altra Lone Peaks Lifetime Miles: 343.00
Nike Pegasus 35 Lifetime Miles: 533.00
Kinivara 9 Blue Lifetime Miles: 149.20
NB 1400v6 Lifetime Miles: 260.00
Hoka Torrent Lifetime Miles: 8.00
NB 1400v6 #2 Lifetime Miles: 70.20
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
4.000.000.002.000.006.00

My leg pain felt much better with my first few steps out of bed this morning, so I decided to attempt my normal speed work this morning.  I did 2+ miles warm up on the roads (Lots of pain for the first 1/4 mile then just mild pain.), then began my track work.

8 x 150m In/Out sprints with 250m recovery jog.  These felt good until the last couple when the pain started to increase.

Planned on 5 x 1 mile repeats (sub 6) with 1/4 mile walk breaks.  After the first mile which was pathetically slow and way to painful at 6:06,  I decided I better call it a day and live to run another day.  I just couldn't push the speed with the pain level I was at.  I'll give it a go again next week if I'm feeling better.

Total run 6 miles,  51:51 

HyperSpeed3 Miles: 6.00
Comments
From Teena Marie on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:56:09 from 174.52.45.85

Rhett --

Please seriously consider giving your body a break for a few days. Whether it is a stress fracture or inflammation ... something is not right. I know that my record is not the greatest, but it is easier to see things from the outside. Even if it is just inflammation -- it still means that your body is trying to repair something (be it muscle pulling away, or a tear, or whatever).

Seriously ... you will run so much faster at UVM if you are healthy and pain free.

Please just consider it.

From timp on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:39:31 from 144.189.100.25

I agree - don't push through the pain and wind up being out for an extended time.

From Andy on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 13:10:30 from 159.212.71.69

Much like downhill running, speed work is very hard on your tibias. You have plenty of speed for UVM. I think it is more important to get to the starting line healthy and not worry about the fine tuning you would normally do over the next couple of weeks.

From Doone on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 14:37:48 from 184.10.154.170

The true test is whether or not you will actually follow any of this advice. I hope you will give your leg a little rest and then go kick some UVM butt!

From Andy on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 15:30:08 from 199.190.170.21

Doone - All we can do is offer the advice. You are the only one that can make him follow it.

From Rhett on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 15:50:43 from 74.32.222.202

Like all runners, I am stubborn when it comes to training, especially with a race so close and me feeling like I'm in the best shape ever, minus the injury. I had to give it one more go this morning. I thank you all for your advice, and after the discomfort I am in today, I will be good. Keep reminding me. It is so sad to let this incredible fitness go.

Teena, tell me more about your injury. Mine is one pin poing spot on the posterior side of my tibia. It feels like a painful shock with each foot step making me wonder if it is some sort of nerve entrapment.

From Teena Marie on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 17:09:11 from 174.52.45.85

Rhett, you mean anterior tibia, right? I have anterior compartment syndrome. My pain is on the anterior portion of my lower leg lateral tibia towards the fibula. I don't have enough room for my muscles to expand between the two bones and fascia and interosseus membrane. So when there is any type of inflammation there all heck breaks loose. Usually I can control things pretty well by having a proper warmup and proper cooldown, but sometimes I overdue it and it can take a long time for things to settle down. When I am in a flare-up it feels like I can pinpoint the pain, yet, the next day it might be in a slightly different area. Often times my superficial femoral/peroneal nerve gets trapped sending zings throughout my leg and a burning sensation that does not go away for quite some time. Initially the doctors thought I had shinsplints or a stress fracture but when that doesn't pan out and they check the pressure they say it is ACS. I have not had the official pressure checked because it is an invasive procedure and it really wouldn't tell me anything that I don't know except for the exact reading. Right now I just try and keep it in check so that I don't have to have the manmade split in my fascia made. As silly as it sounds, sometimes I hope that my fascia will just tear a tiny bit more (it has already torn in two places causing two small muscle herniations), I think that would solve all the pressure problems. But anyway. Does that answer your question?

From Teena Marie on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 17:17:04 from 174.52.45.85

Btw, Rhett. If the nerve is entrapped you don't want to do a lot of rolling, etc. It will only aggravate it.

This might sound silly, but if I were you I would sleep with my feet elevated and eat lots of anti-inflammatory foods: salmon, extra-virgin olive oil, almonds, avocados, etc. (It couldn't hurt.)

From Rhett on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 18:02:10 from 74.32.222.202

My pain sounds similar,but mine is the posterior tibia, medially about 3 inches above my ankle bone. I do eat all those foods regularly and am now popping advil as well.

From Teena Marie on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 18:52:27 from 174.52.45.85

Wow. Hmmm ... there is such thing as posterior compartment syndrome. Seriously, whatever it is, give it a couple of days. And, there is also that posterior tibial nerve that can get entrapped in much the same way as the median nerve gets entrapped in carpal tunnel syndrome.

Man ... isn't the greatest battle just figuring out what is wrong so that you know what exactly to do and what to expect? That's the part that always kills me.

I know you hate prednisone ... but if a nerve is entrapped there can be some serious damage done. You might want to give a doc a call if you don't start seeing improvement fairly soon. When I got foot drop that is when they put me on the blasted stuff. You don't have foot drop do you?

Be careful. Seriously, give your body a break for a bit and see if it will take care of itself. Our bodies are amazing like that most of the time, we just need to give them the opportunity.

From Rhett on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 18:55:10 from 74.32.222.202

Thanks Teena. No, no dropping of the foot. It's still right where it belongs. :) I just can't walk without wincing.

From Teena Marie on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 19:01:36 from 174.52.45.85

You worry me.

Seriously ... you say that you are going to give it a couple of days, PLEASE stay true to that.

Does ibuprofen help at all?

Maybe you should go see a sports doc just to see what she/he has to say.

From Rhett on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 19:23:08 from 74.32.222.202

Sports doc will just tell me to RICE. I'll do that for a couple days. I promise I won't run until Saturday at the earliest and then that will be with Doone at her pace, but only if the pain has greatly diminished. I really want to run UVM and do it fast, so I'm going to be good.

From Teena Marie on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 19:42:34 from 174.52.45.85

That sounds like a smart plan. Just fyi, sometimes heat works better for pain relief when dealing with a nerve impingement. You might want to alternate between the two. Just a thought.

From Doone on Thu, May 20, 2010 at 00:12:33 from 184.10.154.170

Right now I am enjoying my new membership on the running blog because I am finding things out about my husband's injury that he would never actually own up to out loud. I will do my best to keep him in check. Thanks for the advice for him Teena. You know a lot. I can't even pronounce most of these body parts.

From Teena Marie on Thu, May 20, 2010 at 00:30:44 from 174.52.45.85

Doone --

I just like to try and act like I know a lot! ;)

It has been great working for a Physical Therapist and taking all the pre-reqs so I can apply for PT school ... but sadly, some of this stuff I only know because I have been injured too many times. :(

Yes, please keep your hubby in check. It is so hard not to run when you feel like you were on top of the world in your training. But you know, as well as I do, and the rest of us, that a few days off will not hurt his fitness. It's just hard to see that when you are the one injured. It's crazy.

When are you moving here???? You know we are suppose to be neighbors!!! :)

From Smooth on Thu, May 20, 2010 at 09:56:34 from 174.23.172.155

I totally understand the stubbornness. Rhett, you're smart! Listen to Doone and Teena. You're doing so well. I'm certain that you won't loose any fitness with your awesome xtraining. Sending healing vibes your way.

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